Sebastopol voids Wi-Fi contract

Sebastopol Wi-Fi Map(existing Wi-Fi, click to zoom)

Our low power mesh Wi-Fi project has been slowly growing in coverage, and we are now serving between 250 and 300 users per day with free broadband access. Service is available in parts of Santa Rosa, Petaluma, Airport Express buses to SFO, plus scattered locations around the bay area.

But in Sebastopol, concerned citizens have been lobbying the city council to revoke our contract, and this week, the council reversed themselves, voiding the contract that we signed in November. Here’s an article on the topic from Sebastopol resident Dale Dougherty. See also news at BroadBandReports.

The concern the folks who are opposed have is that Wi-Fi will harm them. Despite many independent university and government health studies of even higher power equipment (cellular base station towers, etc) which show no harmful effect. For more on this topic, see Wikipedia. There is also a great overview at the World Health Organization’s Electromagnetic Hypersensitivity fact sheet.

The studies show that self-identified electrosensitive individuals DO exhibit real symptoms, including headache, skin rashes and anxiety. But, double blind studies show that the symptoms are unrelated to exposure to the radio signals. In other words, electrosensitive individuals placed in a shielded room and not exposed to radio signals do exhibit symptoms. They exhibit more symptoms if they believe the transmitter is turned on, and their manifestation of symptoms is not apparently related to the on/off status of the radio equipment.

The conclusion of study after study is that the symptoms are psychosomatic, and are likely a result of fear and stress. In the case of Wi-Fi and other radio signals, this suggests that what we have to fear from Wi-Fi is simply fear of Wi-Fi.

If you’ve got concerns at this point, please let me put things into perspective. Wi-Fi signals are typically 0.1 watt. Compare this to the mobile phone that you keep in your pocket, which is typically three to ten times this power level. When it’s at it’s highest power level, you hold it next to your head to conduct a conversation. Ever notice that your skin gets warm after a long call? That’s the only side effect of RF energy – warming. (Correction: While RF does cause minor heating, more than one individual has pointed out that most of the heat that you’d feel from the phone is due to the battery discharging, not from the tiny amount of RF. Sorry! -DJ) That is how microwave ovens work, at a much higher power level of 500-700 watts.

Our mesh network uses repeaters which are very low power, the same as a typical laptop or Linksys or Apple Airport access point. The transmitters are generally located 35 feet up on street light poles.

Finally, Wi-Fi is already widely deployed in Sebastopol today by residents and businesses there. The linked image below is a screencap from, a Wi-Fi mapping service. It shows all Wi-Fi access points detected by volunteers who have submitted them – not’s network (we only have one access point in Sebastopol currently), just everything else (over 250 existing access points).

To give a rather extreme example to illustrate the point, our Wi-Fi plans called for a Wi-Fi repeater on the street light at the corner of 12 and Main St. Today, there are already roughly 25 private access points within a one block radius of that spot.

If there was a public network, would less people spend their own money to buy and set up private access points, resulting in less Wi-Fi transmitters? If you fear Wi-Fi, a single public network might be “better” than hundreds of independent networks!

Wi-Fi is not a money maker for at this point, but I do believe it is a worthwhile project. Without continued development and experimentation in wireless technologies, many people will be left with just two broadband choices – AT&T, or Comcast. I don’t believe that duopoly will serve consumers well. Mesh wireless is an exciting alternative that can enable low cost Internet access for everyone.

  • I’m not surprised – Sebastolpolians either work for O’Reilly or wear a tin-foil hat.

  • Scare journalism is doing its part to get people hot and bothered about this subject. A recent example would be a Panorama piece on the health effects of WiFi:

  • Interesting that Panorama was censured for their sensational scare “journalism”.

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  • Paul Christensen

    Dane –

    You may want to investigate where the scare is coming from. If your goal is to reduce a duopoly, maybe some of the hype is coming from there.

  • Sean Haynes

    It is unfortunate that fear got the better of them. The little enegry absorbed from Wi-Fi simply doesn’t compare with other RF enegy: cellular, FM& AM radio, GPS, TV, satellite TV and Internet.

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  • Ben Cunningham

    For the uninformed or curious, here is a link to the FCC’s Office of Engineering and Technology’s page titled “Information On Human Exposure To Radiofrequency Fields From Cellular and PCS Radio Transmitters”.

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  • Joel

    I live in Sebastopol, a couple of blocks from the center of town, and from my apartment I can see packets from another 10 or so wireless nets that didn’t make the WiGLE map. On top of that, the local HS is doing a free collection of old PCs next month, so I guess there are more than a few people in town who choose to bathe in EMF.

    I just wanted to say thanks for your efforts, your project is very cool. I imagine you’ve already devoted a lot of time and resources to this already (just in an effort to give something away for free). But if you’re planning to “fight” this (seems ridiculous even just to type), I’d happily volunteer to astroturf for you.

    My alternate idea is to put my PDA into broadcast mode, slap a “wi-fi blaster” sticker on it, and walk around downtown to see who I can scare. 🙂

  • Mark

    Didn’t this exact same thing happen with Mendocino High School something like 10 years ago? Given the backstory in the PD on the participants I assume this is a different crop of nuts.

  • The woman who gathered 500 signatures sez that her non-exposure to Electro Magnetic waves has caused her hair to grow better.

    We wanna test that! We want 10 dudes with long beards. 5 will be subjected to weekly Duke & Banner broadcasts, 5 won’t.

    We will measure the beards. Nobody will have access to a razor for a year.

    At the end of a year, we will re-measure and see if there’s a change.

    PS–Can we get free government money to run the testing? Oh, I figure $50,000 ought to cover it…

  • maybe they should rename the town to stupidopol

  • Dan
  • Muck Raker

    Well, I think it is obvious why news organizations would lend their hand and add sensational journalism into the mix. The internet takes away viewers from the TV – This results in less money from advertisers.

    The general populace is more likely to watch the news than read about it and therefore when they are on the internet, they do things other than read the latest news, such as e-mail, watch videos, play games, etc. These activities produce no revenue for the news organizations and their parent companies and is a key reason why they would take the side of the people who are against Wi-Fi.

  • Funny that non-open and non-free WiFi don’t have the same alleged health hazards.

  • It’s amazing that towns that claim to be so ‘progressive’ and ‘liberal’ can actually still have such an outdated mindset. I am also willing to be that every person who is ‘scared’ of the Wi-Fi owns a cell phone.

    Good luck though. is where i found the story today by the way. You have some support on there for sure.

  • Wow, you really think the warming of your skin is because your cell phone is microwaving you?
    You are a clueless junk science peddler!
    Your skin is getting warm because your cell phone is getting warm.
    Or maybe you are one of those psycosomatic people that you blame your lost contract on?

    You can’t fight junk science with junk science!!

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  • sxpert

    just hit slashdot…

    as for the scare, most of those “green” and “environmentalists” blah people don’t know what they are talking about and distribute myths faster than they can think…
    those people also probably have a cell phone in their pockets, and a microwave in their kitchen

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  • hte

    you say: “That’s the only side effect of RF energy – warming.”
    Man, that’s complete 20 years old rubbish – for everyones sake go and read the BioInitiative report now!

  • anon

    1) Either a certain wattage is (statistically) harmful, or not. Statements that other networks are already there zapping people or not have nothing to do with the truth of whether these nets are harmful or not. The idea that it is OK to add to a phenomenon because others already did it is not logic. Each of you should never use this kind of reasoning again. It is a classic fallacy that leads to false conclusions.
    2) I don’t know if harmful or not. But since cancer classically takes 20-25 years from injury to cancer, any time a “study” is mentioned shouldn’t there be this caveat that it didn’t last long enough to see if some of the claimed down the road effects materialized, one way or the other.
    3) The claim that something will not cause damage because it only heats something is specious. Plenty of things cause damage by heating, in this case pumping energy into the skull. Yes, not as bad as ionizing radiation, xrays, etc., but true or false it doesn’t follow that this proves No Effect.
    4) If damage occurs it is likely proportional to the number of hours exposed. Putting radio transmitters that are on 24/7 creates RF “smog”. The damage, if any, would be multiplied by the hours exposed. This is why it is questionable to expose people who do not consent to be put in a position where they are more or less continuously exposed. There is no discussion here of the difference between short time intervals of exposure and multiplying by 365 days 24 hours a year, which would be a greater effect.

  • Dane,
    My sympathies for being in the middle of such irrationality.
    To your comments I want to add a minor point
    regarding the “warming” one feels after using a cell phone next to one’s head for an extended time. That’s almost certainly not due to RF! It’s due to the fact that virtually the *entire* output of the battery finally ends up in heat inside your phone, probably due especially to circuits for the high speed digital processing, cpu and power stages of the transmitter – which themselves may not have a tremendously high efficiency of converting DC power to RF.
    The number you quote for cell phone power – .1 watt – is also a maximum. Both TDMA and CDMA systems (that covers all the major carriers now that analog is dead) provide power control. This means that the phone only notches up to the power necessary to maintain the call. Particularly for CDMA systems (Verizon,Sprint, Altel) there is deliberate effort to carefully maintain not only minimum necessary power for the call but also equal powers from all users of a given cell segment.
    As a result, of the total (usually much less than .1 watt) coming from your phone as RF, only a fraction can be radiated toward the head and only a fraction of that is absorbed. Compared to the thermal mass and heat capacity of head tissue, the resulting energy actually contributing to heat rise is extremely small and the corresponding temperature rise is almost certainly unmeasurable.
    And if(since) this worst of all cases, a transmitter next to your head, can’t produce a measurable rise in tissue temperature, a WiFi or similar transmitter located at least a few, if not many, feet away is absolutely not going to do anything.

    But, as you say, the *fear* of an unknown can do all sorts of things.

    Heaven help us if Sebastopol’s fear of the unseen as evidenced by “Nuclear Free Zone” gets mapped onto forbidding the nuclear family.


  • P.S.
    May comments above are without any malice toward Sebastopol… I was born there.

  • Thats crazy they would think that. Great article.
    What other cities are you adding. Would Redding be one ?


    Computer Zone ISP

  • I attended a wireless “community” meeting in Mendocino a few years back when the local ISP there (MCN) was trying to install a wireless network. It was the funniest night of my life.( I wish I could have made the Sebastopol meeting.) Aging hippies attaching their anxieties to the latest “cause” is very entertaining. My favorite person was the nut case from Santa Cruz who jumped up and screamed “Remember DDT, Remember DDT”. Then her cell rang and she had to leave the room. Priceless. I was tempted to grab an antenna from the back of my truck and yell “everyone down! NOW!”. But I didn’t, being the old but “mellow” aging hippy that I am 🙂

  • health concerns

    they are so stupid, every mobilephone has a ten times larger radiation then the accesspoints.

  • I believe there was a tin foil hatter hippie in Humboldt or Mendocino County some years back that tried to legislate a “wireless free” zone there. Sorry I can’t find a reference. This person was trying to ban all forms of wireless communication, including cell phones. I guess they don’t like listening to the radio. Bizarre, clueless people.

  • Troy Engel

    Great blog post, Dane. Very even-handedly written and researched, pointing out the fallacies in these arguments. Kudos.

  • David

    D: I’m sorry for you guys. I’m sensitive to eletromagnetic fields, but have NEVER had any ill symptoms. Those people need to get on their tinfoil hat and drink plenty of their oxidized snakeoil water!

    Hopefully the city does its own study instead of blowing off the contract to reestablish your services.

    Those type of nutjobs make people who actually have real sensitivity look bad. 🙁

  • Janice Asterfeld

    People are exposed to tonnes of radiation each day. More on 2.4Ghz isn’t going to hurt them. Even worse it is low power.

    This scientific illiteracy displayed on behalf of the city, its populace and the media is to be expected. As a non-American I’d like to remind American readers that the stereotype of Americans is that they are ignorant and this post illustrates that this city in question is no exception.

  • binaryspiral

    Clueless afraid sheep. Do these people know about the number of wireless technology out there that are hitting them every day?

    Radar, GPS, satellite and terrestrial radio, satellite and terrestrial television, bluetooth, cellular (three generations!), about a dozen different types of cordless POTS phone technology, microwave long haul relay communication… and the list goes on.

    If wireless communication was harmful – we would have been dead years ago.

  • Tim Gravenites

    This INFURIATES me, why would the people of Sebastopol be so stupid! I’m going to speak with the mayor, this is nuts. Why would we take such a giant step backwards, the people of sebastopol don’t understand how nice a free wifi mesh network would be.

  • Barbara

    I live in Sebastopol and am embarrassed to say I didn’t know about this council decision until someone at my gym told me a couple of days ago. (Maybe we shouldn’t have cancelled our PD subscription after all!) It’s just so ridiculous. I plan to find a way to get back in the loop and see if we can get the reversal reversed. Sheesh….

  • illuminatus

    The US Military is already playing with Microwaves as a weapon, not only to induce burn effects as in crowd control, but also to induce effects of Audio and Visual disturbance (sounds(voices and other noises) and colours)).

    There is a lot of information and even more mis-information generated from the vested interests of the Mobile-Phone Companies. If you look you will find the real information out there, its simply a matter of time until the number of people reporting ill health from exposure to this untested
    (oh, sorry it is currently being long-term tested on the whole population at the momment!.)

    I wonder do cancer clusters, reports of EHS(including people forced to move away from such areas due to ill-health) and death due to cancer, contribute towards the final test results,,, i doubt it)

    If they think its safe, let the CEO’s and all those involved in certifying it live within 10yards of a fully populated GSM/3G/Mesh mast.
    (i mean, at the least they make $$$$ from hosting the tower, at worst, they, thier kids/wife get cancer, etc…)

    I mean, It must be safe for them, they say it’s safe for US!, isn’t it???

  • Walker R.

    I would love to see a service like this in Cotati (Sebastopol’s neighboring town). Since the Sebastopol deal fell through is there any chance of trying this with another Sonoma community?

  • Brian in Chicago

    I wouldn’t be surprised at all if someone found that Comcast had greased some palms at your city council.

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  • Ben

    I think it would be a good idea to raise awareness about the non-danger that “waves” represent.

    I was raised by a mother who would always tell me to wait 10 seconds before grabbing my plate from the microwave oven, because “you have to let the waves out of the food first.” “Don’t stand next to the microwave while it’s on, you’ll catch some waves.”

    I studied radio waves and microwaves in my last year of high school… And I’m inclined to think that most of my parents’ generation did not learn about them. I also think only people who took science courses know how microwaves can heat up matter, and why they’re absolutely not dangerous to us when they are below a certain treshold of power.

    Just show these old people a 3D animation of atoms vibrating. Show them what the molecules in their body look like when they’re vibrating. Then show them how waves are constantly passing through our bodies at all times, and only certain types of waves can heat up matter. Show them how small the effect is.

    Just ask around… I wouldn’t be surprised to learn that 99% of the population has no clue how a microwave works.

    Ask them for a chance to explain the health risks. There is no reason for them to have doubts if you play your cards right.

  • Dbug

    I’d suspect that ISPs not wanting net access competition, and/or telcos not wanting to compete with VoIP, are behind planting the seeds of this FUD. Being closer, the signals from home access points and laptop computers are actually much stronger when reaching people, and pale in comparison with things like cell phones.
    Those interested in reducing exposure to microwave signals would be better served by checking the doors, seals, and safety switches on their microwave ovens. Those operate at 5,000-10,000 times the power level.

    Comparisons with things like high-powered directional military microwave applications are absurd. If we are to believe the FUD thrown about by the ignorant or those with hidden agendas, we should also live in total darkness.
    Light must be bad, after all staring at the sun can blind you, and high powered lasers can cut steel. What more proof do you need?

    There are federal safety limits for radio frequency exposure which protect people from things like exposure at close range to high powered broadcast stations.

    When people use the term “radiation” in reference to microwaves it has the same meaning as light radiating from a desk lamp, or heat radiating from warm hamburger. It is unrelated to ionizing radiation such as that in atomic weapons or nuclear power plants.

    I wish these people would put their energy to some good use. It has been 17 years since the EPA has banned a chemical. In the same time period the EU has banned several hundred. Many products sold in the U.S. contain the chemicals that are not being used for the same products in Europe. One got attention in San Francisco and will be banned in California in 2009. It’s almost humorous that the industry accepts the research that shows the chemicals widespread presence in plastics is leading to male children with smaller genitals, but they don’t consider that important. Their argument is that it hasn’t (yet) been proven to make men sterile, or to cause cancer. The EU is more cautious, and doesn’t feel a need to wait for many cancer cases to show up. (And maybe they think size matters too???)

    It should be noted that the EU, which is far more cautious than U.S. agencies, does not consider WiFi devices to be a threat.

    (Those curious about the chemical in many soft plastics should checkout the podcasts of the PBS show “Now” on Toxic Toys, 3/21/08, available free from the PBS website or through iTunes)

    Those concerned about RF exposure might want to check out the FCC website.

  • Jeff R

    Brian in Chicago:

    If you’ve ever lived in Sebastopol you’d know that Comcast probably had nothing to do with it. Sebastopol is an activist town with an all green-party city council (last I checked). In the early 90s they outlawed the sell of many styrofoam products, and the welcome signs when entering the city all declare how Sebastopol is a nuclear free zone.

    The population in and around Sebastopol is largely made up of new-age movement, environmental activists, who were drawn to the area in the late 60s and early 70s.

    Th point: there are plenty of people around Sebastopol who would be *very* vocally against this, considering how much of a drama removing a fast-growing weed from a pond became.

    (The people refused to let the city use any herbicides at all, and someone even transplanted an endangered plant onto the site to try to keep the EPA from authorizing the herbicide use. In the end, however, all the alternate plans failed and they had no choice but to use a low-toxicity herbicide as the weed destroyed all the native species and killed all the fish.)

  • The FCC maximun amplifier output for WIFI is 1 watt. The fears of it are simply UNPROVABLE due to similar frequencies being used by cellular towers with power outputs exponentially higher. Studies were done and the fear is quite that, simply fear of what they don’t know.

    James Cratty
    Electronics Engineer

  • I live in Palo Alto which went through a decision that took 10 years to finally get resolved. It wasn’t around WiFi or anything technology oriented. I only wish the city’s Fibre ring installed some 10+ years ago were finally brought to our collective doors. I’m still waiting.

    No, 10 years ago a group of observant jewish families petitioned the city of Palo Alto to erect a bunch of fishing line over various locations to create a symbolically enclosed space–an “Eruv”. They would pay for it. It would have little or no environmental impact. All so a bunch of families could use a stroller or carry their kids to services on Friday night or Saturday morning. The Eruv created a firestorm of “church vs. State” debate that raged on in the local paper for years. Strangely enough there are several California cities that have had an Eruv for many years, paid for by the City (e.g. West Hollywood down south) with no issues, whining, court challenges or any of that stuff. But leave it to the Palo Alto “process” to shoot down something that wouldn’t cost anyone anything (it was to be privately funded by that group of families and a local synagogue). Now 10 years later it’s been up and around for over a year. Nary a peep out of those original kvetchers.

    Moral: if the CEO of SonicNet is willing to wait it out, this to shall pass. Unfortunately, business marches on. I hope Dane and SonicNet will still be around.

  • Don

    The WiFi company should take time to educate the potential customers and city dummies first.

  • Hugo

    I have to say that as a Sebastopol resident I am embarrassed by the lack of scientific literacy in this town and America in general. I hope you keep trying and we end up with this valuable public service.

  • Pat Evans

    Dane, Please come to Port Orford, Oregon. We ONLY have dial up here and no one – Verizon or Comcast have plans to give us anything else. A low power wifi would work very well here – 1000 people, maybe 400 homes, 25 businesses all in a strip next to the ocean.

    We own the Crazy Norwegian’s Fish and Chips and offer free wifi to our customers (and anyone else who can see our signal from where they live) but to give them that, we had to build a radio link from the restaurant to the local dial up access point for Verizon to get a land line to the Internet.

    Come !


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  • Congratulations on the Slashdotting.

    I’ve been a customer of Sonic for many years. When did you become CEO and when did you start working at Sonic? I suggest putting the answer to those 2 questions in

  • Ben Cunningham

    For the people that are discovering and Dane Jasper’s blog because of Sebastopol’s resent decision, here is a brief and incomplete history. has been encouraging its customers to host hotspots using their connection for years. For those whom hosted a hotspot (in years past) were able to use all hotspots for free and got a cut of the revenue that was made on their personal access point. In the last year or so revisited the idea and in Oct. or Nov. (?) changed the process in an attempt to make the Wi-Fi network capitalize on the benefits of a mesh network and easier for customers to participate in. With this new direction, everyone (not just hotspot hosts) has access to the network for free, the set up is plug and play and for those without a wireless access point in their home they now have one.

    Enough of that, here is a link to the “ Open WiFi Project“page. It has info on what equipment is used, a coverage map of the network, etc:

    A Press Democrat Article on Nov 14, 2007 that talks about’s ideas for this project as well as an early hint of Sebastopol’s resent actions:

    A DSL Reports’ article about this project on Monday Sep 03 2007:

    Dane Jasper, The man behind the controversy. Here is an old Press Democrat article about Dane Jasper from Jul 23, 2006 (not related to the Wi-Fi):

    I hope this helps paint a better picture for everyone.

  • I was wondering where all the descendents of King Canute went to live (and ahead of the Mayflower).
    Interestingly, after having been bathed in TV signals all of my life and passed through dozens of scary-frequency Airport scanners as well as using my GSM phone intensively over the past 15 years and WiFi in my home and at my office for past three years, I can honestly testify that I have not suffered any ill effects to date. Nor do I expect to in the future.

  • Bryan Heveron

    I think we are also missing a big point. The 2.4Ghz cordless phone base stations in MANY of our houses today put out more wattage than most wifi APs! Of course, this is still less than 1/4 watt, but still, way more exposure than the wifi AP mounted to the light pole outside.

  • I had a wireless router in my bedroom for two years. After a year I developed a full body muscle ache and my joints became creaky. I was working as a gardener and attributed the full body muscle ache to my work, but it was quite odd. Typically I have gotten muscle aches from a specific activity and it has been localized.

    I moved and my new service provider was having technical difficulties and did not reconnect my wifi for about a month. I had also quit gardening about 3 months prior to moving and was no longer doing any physical work. After my move I stopped getting the muscle ache and creaky joints. These returned after a short time after I started taking a training that was located 60 feet from and at the same height as a cell tower. I knew the tower was on the property, but I did not know it was so close to the training site. I was there twice a week for extended periods of time. By the 6th class I knew something was seriously wrong. In addition to the muscle aches my short term memory was gone and I literally did not sleep for four days. Needless to say I stopped the training and started doing research into non ionizing electromagnetic radiation exposure. My symptoms were the classic symptoms. I disabled my wireless router and started taking supplements to repair the damage. It took over a month before things were back to normal and I now am highly sensitized to emr. You may think this is a joke, but even the WHO acknowledges that up to 5% of the population is electro sensitive. My guess is that the number is much higher, but most people do not have a clue as to what is the cause of their symptoms. If I had not known of the existence of the cell tower I would likely have never made the connection.

    The BioInitiative (pub 8/07) reviews over 2,000 studies which show evidence of the non thermal bio effects from non-ionizing radiation.

  • Lauralee Aho

    I was born/raised/retired in Sebastopol. I have been apolitical up to this point, however the stupidity of the city council’s recent “wifi-free zone” has spurred me to get involved. This is what I think the council should have told the wifi-sensitive folks at the meeting: “We appreciate your input, and do not challenge that you may have sensitivities to all sorts of external stimuli, HOWEVER, you are a very minor group of the people we were elected to represent. We have a very large contingent of low-income students, families, and an ever-increasing ‘baby boomer’ population whose quality of lives would be improved by having free wifi in our community. Thank you Dane Jasper, we accept your proposal.” I guess I can dream, right?

  • william

    I love it when a guy who studied electromagnetism in high school is lecturing us about science. I’ve got a Ph.D. in physics, and a microwave meter, and yes the ovens leak. Yes your cordless phone may or may not be irradiating you when you sleep (some turn off when not in use). Yes a cell phone at your head is worse than Wi-Fi, but at least you can turn it off. Plus, 2.4 GHz is right in the sweet spot for absorption in the brain. Lower frequencies tend to reflect, higher ones are absorbed in the skin (and you can then feel the warmth). Anything that’s just a few GHz can go right in damage nerve cells, like Salford showed in rat experiments in 2003.

    Thanks for posting a link to the FCC. Too bad the FCC is run by political appointees with no science background. They get their science from industry.

  • Jeff

    If Sebastopol wants to be left in the dark ages, they let them. Let’s move the rest of Sonoma County forward.

  • Max

    Dont give up on Sebastopol Jeff and I are two of many who are working on convincing the city council to accept the WiFi.

  • It is a hugely dangerous precedent for the City to cancel the Wifi contract on the grounds that it is a health hazard. They have now opened themselves up to further petitions to ban all public WiFi. Pretty soon the “sensitive” will be looking to ban WiFi in public homes because those are far more prevalent than Sonics. It will only be a matter of time before there are law suits from workers at City hall where they no doubt use WiFi – which will be followed by suits from workers in all Sebastapool businesses.

    Really I can understand these folks following the “precautionary principle” but personally I think the body of evidence clearly points that there are no detrimental effects. I would love to see a police raid of some of those complainers homes – my suspicion is that have cellphones, TVs, cordless phones, CFLs, radios, and kinds of EMF sources in them. I bet they drive cars or ride buses – good luck with all the EMF spikes from spark plugs and alternators. Unless they are living in electricity free grounded Faraday cages they are basically living a lie.

    As Dane points out it is likely these people are all “hypersensitivity” sufferers who are having stress induced psychosomatic responses and once they are done removing all the EMF sources they will stressing out over chemicals in the food, water and air. What is the ultimate plan here – complete rejection of modern life – crawling back into a cave to bang the rocks together. Good luck with that plan.

    Okay, rant off, but I really hope Sebastapool knows what it is doing…

  • I would be interested in approaching my city council about deploying our wifi service here. Can you provide me with the Wifi contract you used to get your system up?

  • You gotta love when people who are not educated in a specific category can have a voice in that exact area.

    But I guess scientist don’t know anything about what they are studying and Sebastopolians are experts without a lick of knowledge.

  • Not sure anyone will see this, since the posting is so old, but I’m hoping to get Wi-Fi in Sebastopol revisited by the City Council. My wife is a newly appointed member of the Council (post wifi vote :-), has a science background, and is willing to work with Dane & wifi proponents in the city to get the proposal (re)examined.

    In order to get this to happen, we’re going to need more than just scientific studies, we’re going to need political backing from the citizens in the community.

    Dane (or anyone else who’s interested in working on this issue), if you see this, could you contact me either via email, or at 707.824.9753?

  • rhonda

    As a sufferer of EHS, I can assure you that the hypersensitivity is real and not just all in anyhone’s head. I simply don’t believe those control studies trying to illustrate otherwise were design correctly because it is not something very difficult to illustrate.

  • Michael

    Its enough to google olle johansson to get a little more neutral and correct information about the effects on humans than is stated on this page.

    All radiation “safe limits” are set only to avoid immediate thermal effects , and those effects are the least dangerous and occurs on very high levels only.