Comments on: Sebastopol voids Wi-Fi contract

By: Michael

Michael — Fri, 20 Feb 2009 04:36:08 +0000

Its enough to google olle johansson to get a little more neutral and correct information about the effects on humans than is stated on this page.

All radiation “safe limits” are set only to avoid immediate thermal effects , and those effects are the least dangerous and occurs on very high levels only.

By: rhonda

rhonda — Fri, 05 Dec 2008 11:50:00 +0000

As a sufferer of EHS, I can assure you that the hypersensitivity is real and not just all in anyhone’s head. I simply don’t believe those control studies trying to illustrate otherwise were design correctly because it is not something very difficult to illustrate.

By: Robert Thille

Robert Thille — Sat, 30 Aug 2008 17:18:29 +0000

Not sure anyone will see this, since the posting is so old, but I’m hoping to get Wi-Fi in Sebastopol revisited by the City Council. My wife is a newly appointed member of the Council (post wifi vote , has a science background, and is willing to work with Dane & wifi proponents in the city to get the proposal (re)examined.

In order to get this to happen, we’re going to need more than just scientific studies, we’re going to need political backing from the citizens in the community.

Dane (or anyone else who’s interested in working on this issue), if you see this, could you contact me either via email web-wifi@rangat.org, or at 707.824.9753?

By: gSarpy

gSarpy — Fri, 06 Jun 2008 21:20:33 +0000

You gotta love when people who are not educated in a specific category can have a voice in that exact area.

But I guess scientist don’t know anything about what they are studying and Sebastopolians are experts without a lick of knowledge.

By: jOseph

jOseph — Mon, 12 May 2008 22:06:21 +0000

I would be interested in approaching my city council about deploying our wifi service here. Can you provide me with the Wifi contract you used to get your system up?

By: Moschops

Moschops — Sun, 13 Apr 2008 19:12:41 +0000

It is a hugely dangerous precedent for the City to cancel the Wifi contract on the grounds that it is a health hazard. They have now opened themselves up to further petitions to ban all public WiFi. Pretty soon the “sensitive” will be looking to ban WiFi in public homes because those are far more prevalent than Sonics. It will only be a matter of time before there are law suits from workers at City hall where they no doubt use WiFi – which will be followed by suits from workers in all Sebastapool businesses.

Really I can understand these folks following the “precautionary principle” but personally I think the body of evidence clearly points that there are no detrimental effects. I would love to see a police raid of some of those complainers homes – my suspicion is that have cellphones, TVs, cordless phones, CFLs, radios, and kinds of EMF sources in them. I bet they drive cars or ride buses – good luck with all the EMF spikes from spark plugs and alternators. Unless they are living in electricity free grounded Faraday cages they are basically living a lie.

As Dane points out it is likely these people are all “hypersensitivity” sufferers who are having stress induced psychosomatic responses and once they are done removing all the EMF sources they will stressing out over chemicals in the food, water and air. What is the ultimate plan here – complete rejection of modern life – crawling back into a cave to bang the rocks together. Good luck with that plan.

Okay, rant off, but I really hope Sebastapool knows what it is doing…

By: Max

Max — Sat, 05 Apr 2008 19:01:31 +0000

Dont give up on Sebastopol Jeff and I are two of many who are working on convincing the city council to accept the WiFi.

By: Jeff

Jeff — Wed, 02 Apr 2008 20:33:47 +0000

If Sebastopol wants to be left in the dark ages, they let them. Let’s move the rest of Sonoma County forward.

By: william

william — Tue, 01 Apr 2008 21:47:51 +0000

I love it when a guy who studied electromagnetism in high school is lecturing us about science. I’ve got a Ph.D. in physics, and a microwave meter, and yes the ovens leak. Yes your cordless phone may or may not be irradiating you when you sleep (some turn off when not in use). Yes a cell phone at your head is worse than Wi-Fi, but at least you can turn it off. Plus, 2.4 GHz is right in the sweet spot for absorption in the brain. Lower frequencies tend to reflect, higher ones are absorbed in the skin (and you can then feel the warmth). Anything that’s just a few GHz can go right in damage nerve cells, like Salford showed in rat experiments in 2003.

Thanks for posting a link to the FCC. Too bad the FCC is run by political appointees with no science background. They get their science from industry.

By: Lauralee Aho

Lauralee Aho — Tue, 01 Apr 2008 18:14:45 +0000

I was born/raised/retired in Sebastopol. I have been apolitical up to this point, however the stupidity of the city council’s recent “wifi-free zone” has spurred me to get involved. This is what I think the council should have told the wifi-sensitive folks at the meeting: “We appreciate your input, and do not challenge that you may have sensitivities to all sorts of external stimuli, HOWEVER, you are a very minor group of the people we were elected to represent. We have a very large contingent of low-income students, families, and an ever-increasing ‘baby boomer’ population whose quality of lives would be improved by having free wifi in our community. Thank you Dane Jasper, we accept your proposal.” I guess I can dream, right?