Comments on: Next steps in growth http://corp.sonic.net/ceo/2009/03/03/next-steps-in-growth/ Postings from Dane Jasper Fri, 20 Nov 2009 00:23:51 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: alan http://corp.sonic.net/ceo/2009/03/03/next-steps-in-growth/comment-page-1/#comment-985 alan Sat, 24 Oct 2009 03:20:08 +0000 http://corp.sonic.net/ceo/?p=379#comment-985 Dane- I'm still (Desperately) waiting for San Leandro to be built out. Alan Dane-

I’m still (Desperately) waiting for San Leandro to be built out.
Alan

]]> By: Dane Jasper http://corp.sonic.net/ceo/2009/03/03/next-steps-in-growth/comment-page-1/#comment-984 Dane Jasper Sat, 24 Oct 2009 03:07:28 +0000 http://corp.sonic.net/ceo/?p=379#comment-984 Karl, Lots of location are in the pipeline, and we're providing specifics as the come online. See for example the recent posting about San Rafael. I know that Napa is also about to wrap up. Our construction teams are all over the place now, working on a wide array of areas. Karl,

Lots of location are in the pipeline, and we’re providing specifics as the come online. See for example the recent posting about San Rafael. I know that Napa is also about to wrap up. Our construction teams are all over the place now, working on a wide array of areas.

]]> By: Karl http://corp.sonic.net/ceo/2009/03/03/next-steps-in-growth/comment-page-1/#comment-983 Karl Fri, 23 Oct 2009 22:27:07 +0000 http://corp.sonic.net/ceo/?p=379#comment-983 It's been over six months since this post. How about an update? When will you start building out the South Bay COs? We are HUNGRY for a better provider at high speeds. I will personally drive around San Jose with a large, magnetic "Sonic.net" decal on my car, to help you spread brand awareness, if that's what it takes! -Karl It’s been over six months since this post. How about an update? When will you start building out the South Bay COs? We are HUNGRY for a better provider at high speeds.

I will personally drive around San Jose with a large, magnetic “Sonic.net” decal on my car, to help you spread brand awareness, if that’s what it takes!

-Karl

]]> By: Dane Jasper http://corp.sonic.net/ceo/2009/03/03/next-steps-in-growth/comment-page-1/#comment-864 Dane Jasper Thu, 30 Jul 2009 02:20:57 +0000 http://corp.sonic.net/ceo/?p=379#comment-864 Yes, in the coming months you can expect two major new developments. The first is Annex M, which is a protocol specification which roughly doubles the upstream bit count. You can find some details here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ITU_G.992.5_Annex_M The basic idea is to shift the upstream & downstream split, so this could result in some slight loss in downstream speed, but the benefit is roughly double the upstream capacity. The other development is pair bonding. We will begin offering products in soon which use two pairs of wire instead of one, doubling both downstream and upstream speed. Annex M and pair bonding can be combined, so you can expect to see products in the 30Mbps/4Mbps maximum speed using both. (We have demonstrated 40Mbps/5Mbps here in the lab, on very short cable lengths. Real world performance is of course lower.) -Dane Yes, in the coming months you can expect two major new developments. The first is Annex M, which is a protocol specification which roughly doubles the upstream bit count. You can find some details here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ITU_G.992.5_Annex_M

The basic idea is to shift the upstream & downstream split, so this could result in some slight loss in downstream speed, but the benefit is roughly double the upstream capacity.

The other development is pair bonding. We will begin offering products in soon which use two pairs of wire instead of one, doubling both downstream and upstream speed.

Annex M and pair bonding can be combined, so you can expect to see products in the 30Mbps/4Mbps maximum speed using both. (We have demonstrated 40Mbps/5Mbps here in the lab, on very short cable lengths. Real world performance is of course lower.)

-Dane

]]> By: david http://corp.sonic.net/ceo/2009/03/03/next-steps-in-growth/comment-page-1/#comment-863 david Thu, 30 Jul 2009 02:15:33 +0000 http://corp.sonic.net/ceo/?p=379#comment-863 Thanks Dane. That sounds promising. Service is great so far in Albany. Any chance of improved upload speed? Thanks Dane.

That sounds promising. Service is great so far in Albany. Any chance of improved upload speed?

]]> By: Dane Jasper http://corp.sonic.net/ceo/2009/03/03/next-steps-in-growth/comment-page-1/#comment-862 Dane Jasper Thu, 30 Jul 2009 01:23:19 +0000 http://corp.sonic.net/ceo/?p=379#comment-862 David, We have the design folks working on this now. The data was previously published in a blog posting here http://corp.sonic.net/ceo/2008/08/06/fusion-product-pricing/ but portions are out of date, and due to anticipated reductions and new speed roll-outs, it's going to be even more wrong shortly. :) -Dane David,

We have the design folks working on this now.

The data was previously published in a blog posting here http://corp.sonic.net/ceo/2008/08/06/fusion-product-pricing/ but portions are out of date, and due to anticipated reductions and new speed roll-outs, it’s going to be even more wrong shortly. :)

-Dane

]]> By: david http://corp.sonic.net/ceo/2009/03/03/next-steps-in-growth/comment-page-1/#comment-861 david Wed, 29 Jul 2009 22:07:25 +0000 http://corp.sonic.net/ceo/?p=379#comment-861 Please could you post the full set of Fusion services with prices and specs on the sonic.net website. eg Express, Pro, Elite Max etc..... Please could you post the full set of Fusion services with prices and specs on the sonic.net website. eg Express, Pro, Elite Max etc…..

]]> By: Dane Jasper http://corp.sonic.net/ceo/2009/03/03/next-steps-in-growth/comment-page-1/#comment-858 Dane Jasper Tue, 14 Jul 2009 22:10:13 +0000 http://corp.sonic.net/ceo/?p=379#comment-858 Brad, We're be doing POTS in the more traditional way, served from the CO, with no requirement for local equipment, or power. Full 911 support, etc will all be included. Expected delivery is a couple months away. -Dane Brad,

We’re be doing POTS in the more traditional way, served from the CO, with no requirement for local equipment, or power. Full 911 support, etc will all be included.

Expected delivery is a couple months away.

-Dane

]]> By: Brad Allen http://corp.sonic.net/ceo/2009/03/03/next-steps-in-growth/comment-page-1/#comment-857 Brad Allen Tue, 14 Jul 2009 22:06:28 +0000 http://corp.sonic.net/ceo/?p=379#comment-857 I've been thinking about this: regarding POTS, it is a bear to support, and has associated costs, but that's why you get to charge for it. I've been running my system using Asterisk for over a year now, and it has its ups and downs, and doesn't have the reliability of the old ma bell, but nothing does these days anyway. You could at least offer a POTS service of some sort. All it takes is a Linksys PAP2T or SPA2102, which I can find online for around $50. Run ulaw on that (same fidelity as POTS to the next CO using AT&T), and then add a support group to get that working cleanly (such as your own static IPv4 internal network with internal IPv4 addresses, which then gateway that stuff out to your telecommunications interconnects). That way, you can get POTS rolled out with minimum fuss. You still have a lot of work to manage whatever kind of telephone delivery you do, even my suggestion, but the above has the flexibility to get rolling right away, regardless of what the eventual best track will be. I’ve been thinking about this: regarding POTS, it is a bear to support, and has associated costs, but that’s why you get to charge for it. I’ve been running my system using Asterisk for over a year now, and it has its ups and downs, and doesn’t have the reliability of the old ma bell, but nothing does these days anyway. You could at least offer a POTS service of some sort. All it takes is a Linksys PAP2T or SPA2102, which I can find online for around $50. Run ulaw on that (same fidelity as POTS to the next CO using AT&T), and then add a support group to get that working cleanly (such as your own static IPv4 internal network with internal IPv4 addresses, which then gateway that stuff out to your telecommunications interconnects). That way, you can get POTS rolled out with minimum fuss.

You still have a lot of work to manage whatever kind of telephone delivery you do, even my suggestion, but the above has the flexibility to get rolling right away, regardless of what the eventual best track will be.

]]> By: Brad Allen http://corp.sonic.net/ceo/2009/03/03/next-steps-in-growth/comment-page-1/#comment-851 Brad Allen Mon, 29 Jun 2009 17:26:46 +0000 http://corp.sonic.net/ceo/?p=379#comment-851 Soooooooooooo .... is the outlook decent? Obviously, things have changed in the last 3 months due to economic considerations, etc.. You are right about San Jose being a long drive from Santa Rosa. I learned that the other way around: Santa Rosa is a long drive from San Jose. I'm showing 105 miles from maps.google.com, and that's around two hours give or take twenty minutes, also according to maps.google.com. While there may be plenty of San Jose customers at some point in the future, whether they are in quantity enough to justify all that has to be considered is of question. Also, I have to say, Comcast has been very successful at rolling out their Extreme service level in San Jose, which is 50megabits per second inbound and 10megabits per second outbound. While I would love to get a CLEC product from Sonic.net, and currently have both the highest available consumer products to me from Comcast and Sonic (Extreme 50mbps/10mbps and 1.5mbps/384kbps, respectively) and would continue that trend by ordering such a CLEC product, I'm not sure my solitary commitment is of much use. I probably won't even be able to get it, since in this area, most of the people connected to this CO are very, very far away from the CO. OTOH, I used to be with San Jose's North CO -- that might have changed without me being aware. I've mentioned a few times that if you partner with Cruzio in Santa Cruz, there may be one or two COs of interest there, depending on density and popularity. Cruzio could keep their branding, and sell your CLEC products; alternatively, you can also use your branding, and have the Cruzio partnership serve it. A little market research might be in order to find out if that would work. Is Los Gatos just too small and weird and low density for you? I wouldn't be surprised if that's the case. You'd have to engender a relationship with Verizon, which would be odd, since in most cases, they deliver FiOS in their Southern California areas, but they haven't shown much commitment in Northern California. You could basically ask them, is this worth it for us? Would Verizon be willing to sign some sort of if-you-offer-FiOS you buy us out clause to a contract with an amount per time component, to cover some of the lost investment should Verizon come thundering in with FiOS? Soooooooooooo …. is the outlook decent? Obviously, things have changed in the last 3 months due to economic considerations, etc..

You are right about San Jose being a long drive from Santa Rosa. I learned that the other way around: Santa Rosa is a long drive from San Jose. I’m showing 105 miles from maps.google.com, and that’s around two hours give or take twenty minutes, also according to maps.google.com. While there may be plenty of San Jose customers at some point in the future, whether they are in quantity enough to justify all that has to be considered is of question.

Also, I have to say, Comcast has been very successful at rolling out their Extreme service level in San Jose, which is 50megabits per second inbound and 10megabits per second outbound. While I would love to get a CLEC product from Sonic.net, and currently have both the highest available consumer products to me from Comcast and Sonic (Extreme 50mbps/10mbps and 1.5mbps/384kbps, respectively) and would continue that trend by ordering such a CLEC product, I’m not sure my solitary commitment is of much use. I probably won’t even be able to get it, since in this area, most of the people connected to this CO are very, very far away from the CO. OTOH, I used to be with San Jose’s North CO — that might have changed without me being aware.

I’ve mentioned a few times that if you partner with Cruzio in Santa Cruz, there may be one or two COs of interest there, depending on density and popularity. Cruzio could keep their branding, and sell your CLEC products; alternatively, you can also use your branding, and have the Cruzio partnership serve it. A little market research might be in order to find out if that would work.

Is Los Gatos just too small and weird and low density for you? I wouldn’t be surprised if that’s the case. You’d have to engender a relationship with Verizon, which would be odd, since in most cases, they deliver FiOS in their Southern California areas, but they haven’t shown much commitment in Northern California. You could basically ask them, is this worth it for us? Would Verizon be willing to sign some sort of if-you-offer-FiOS you buy us out clause to a contract with an amount per time component, to cover some of the lost investment should Verizon come thundering in with FiOS?

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